photo of Tom by: Mario Sorrenti

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“I think the original work of art has authenticity. And I think that can include the digital realm, too. It’s just a different measure of what that is. And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with reproducing art. I think it’s cool that you can buy an Andy Warhol painting for $50 million, and then you can buy a print one for $10,000, and a poster for $100.”

Tom Sachs

This episode:

The Stuart Semple show invites contemporary artists for an intimate conversation about their craft.

American sculpture artist Tom Sachs joins episode 3 of The Stuart Semple Show to discuss his art, his workshop, and his dislike of reproduction snobbery. Everything is up for discussion in this hour-long art podcast. 

Stuart Semple and Tom Sachs bounce ideas off each other about the power of cleaning, the question of whether originals have an aura, and even the egalitarian power of cryptocurrency. 

This episode gives an insight into Stuart’s recent battle against companies using his name, products, and signature to sell knock-off paint in China. 

This episode covers:

  • Cleaning as a form of meditation
  • Fake Stuart Semple paint in China
  • The egalitarian nature of cryptocurrency
  • Original artwork and authenticity 
  • Meditation in art 

Links & references 

Tom Sachs Website:

https://www.tomsachs.org/

Tom Sachs Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/tomsachs/

Tom Sachs Twitter:

https://twitter.com/tom_sachs

Tom Sachs Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/teamsachs

Stuart Semple Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/stuartsemple/

Stuart Semple Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/MrStuartSemple/

Stuart Semple Website: 

https://stuartsemple.com/

Culture Hustle: 

https://culturehustle.com/

 

Episode highlights 

“One of the things I really love about your work is the fact that your hand is so present in the process. It’s got that tactility about it. It transcends being a reproduction or a model, it starts to become something else.” – Stuart Semple – 10:42

“Let’s stick with the Mondrian example, for a second. Physically making stuff was such a pleasure. I made like 25. I made all the Mondrian that I loved, I didn’t make any that I didn’t like. Spending the time tearing all those bits of gaffer tape to represent the cracks, building the frames, the mitring, the joints…for me, building stuff is meditation.” –  Tom Sachs – 11:01

“You run a tight ship there. I’m in awe. Your systems are tight. People behave, they follow the code. My studio is not like yours, it’s flipping chaos.” –  Stuart Semple – 15:02

“It’s not really cleaning up, it’s a kind of cleaning up but it’s also a form of meditation. So when you don’t know what to do, knoll all your stuff. If you’re looking for something that’s missing, knoll all your stuff. You’re touching everything. You’re seeing what’s around you. You’re taking a cigarette break without smoking.” –  Tom Sachs – 15:55

“It’s the same in my studio. We’re the weirdest mix of dropout weirdos that you’d ever meet. But we’re cool. There’s something special about it…we may have all been bullied at school, but somehow we’ve found each other and we’re making things and it makes sense.” – Stuart Semple – 27:50

“I find my meditation through making stuff like ceramics, running, plywood, weightlifting. Because when I’m doing those things I can only be doing those things.” – Tom Sachs – 23:29

“That’s why I love crypto. It’s egalitarian. It’s taking the power back.” – Stuart Semple – 38:43

“I think the original work of art has authenticity. And I think that can include the digital realm, too. It’s just a different measure of what that is. And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with reproducing art. I think it’s cool that you can buy an Andy Warhol painting for $50 million, and then you can buy a print one for $10,000, and a poster for $100.” – Tom Sachs – 48:08

“Do you know what happened? They registered my name and my signature as a trademark in China. We fought it for a year and we lost so they can now make paint with my name and signature on it in China and sell it. And if I try and sell my paint in China, they can sue me.” – Stuart Semple – 42:47

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